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Behind the Scenes: Part 1 Why did it change? by Randommode Behind the Scenes: Part 1 Why did it change? by Randommode
I hope you feel like reading because I feel like explaining.

So some know some don't. Pirate Madeline has been restarted 3 times! Here's some Pirate Madeline history: (2009-2013)

:icondestroyplz: (2009-2010) The first time was because people felt it was too ecchi. That will be it's own section I will get to that in it's own part in depth, for I have plenty to say, but long story short, Madeline started as an ecchi comedy, the problem was two fold, some women felt it went too far, and some fan boys wanted it to go further, while the story was meant to be light-hearted and funny it soon got way out of hand. It was the hardest decision in my life to stop it. It never went beyond PG-13, but still I didn't want to get old one day and still be fighting people off. No thanks.

:icononiontantrumplz: (2010-2011)The second time is because thanks to stories like LOST, V (the Alien one) that go no where or don't live up to the mystery people felt what I was writing in the second version of Madeline wasn't going to pay off. The people who read the original script knows it did but, again I choose to reset rather then have rude people tell me I "jumped the shark" Which is what was occurring at the time. Still the second version brought with it a lot of interesting ideas, including the battle introduction rather then the dry start of the comedy version, going right into jokes. Along with an earlier introduction of the Skelly King.

:iconkaminaonionplz: (2011-2012)So then came Hokey and Pokey: (You can find it here randommode.deviantart.com/gall… ) Hokey and Pokey was a side story I wrote to keep sharp and try new techniques while I tried to figure out what to do about the Main story in Pirate Madeline. Hokey and Pokey is a STAND ALONE STORY, but if you are sharp and love sci-fi it also actually shows how the other two stories fold into the new one using Quantum Mechanics, a field which I love very much. Zhin uses Hokey to fix time and space, wrap your mind around that one!

:iconthatsrightplz: However! The idea Hokey and Pokey brought was giant robot battles, something I loved from my youth (the 90s) but has much deflated in current anime, it gets too dramatic, and too political, two things that don't go with the light-hearted silliness of a giant robot.

:iconrandommode: (2012- Present) And so here we are at the present the Pirate Madeline that just started, this version combines the other two versions together, people will see the similarities between the Second remake and the current one (The picture above) And you can see how the robots are now part of the story.

I am going to post the next page tomorrow or Wednesday, whichever makes the better product if you noticed I have been missing days here and there, but I want to make sure it all goes right this time, and I determined to make sure it does.

:icongraduatingplz: Now you know it all. If anyone has ANY questions let me know, and next time I do this, I will show more pictures and more explainations. Thanks everyone for reading all this. :) Bye for now

-Random :iconhandsomeonionplz: See you later this week dudes!
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It's very loony, in a good way. It also has a very good thought out story line, and all the characters seem fun and interesting to be around. All in all I give you a A+ on this work :) It says that I have to have at least 100 words so...I'm just going to fill in the empty space with shenanigans. Hoop beep, beep bop bloop, Skippy do, Bill Cosby you see. Ten dwarfs took turns doing handstands on the carpet. Little red riding hood was a drug dealer. The cake is a lie. WHAT IS LOVE? BABY DON'T HURT ME! that's all :3
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thenightsurfers Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2013
It's interesting to see this behind-the-scenes stuff!
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:iconrandommode:
Randommode Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
lol I got a lot more coming :) 
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nightshide Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2013  Professional General Artist
Great work and evolution, my friend!!
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Randommode Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
:lmao: I hope so sometimes it looks the same :) 
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nightshide Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2014  Professional General Artist
;)
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negativedarkangel Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2013

ah... having dA issues, I can't zoom in, please excuse me if I end up randomly commenting on this later.

 

but anyway, just reading the artist comments and such, I've been here for only a short while yet somehow become aware of even the ecchi comedy verison before now. I've liked it from the start and well adding robots in only made it better to me. i'm still looking foreward to seeing this ship actually set sail though, but it sure looks impressive.

 

on a side note, I have to agree, newer mecha stuff just doesn't feel the same.

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Randommode Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
The ecchi version did 3 things. Cause me trouble, cause me trouble, and cause me trouble. :icononiontantrumplz: 

:iconlaughingplz: But honestly, it had to change, The ecchi version (2009-2010) I had a lot of people getting disrespectful with me, I had people attacking the comic, and I didn't like it. There's too many jealous artist who fear this comic that were looking for an "in" to attack it and the ecchi version gave them just that, now they have nothing. And that's the way it has to stay 

I mean, have you turned on the television? Good art work has gotten the boot off tv, this is a war indeed but a war that has to be fought correctly! :iconkaminaonionplz: I am not giving up, I have just changed tactics!

I'm an artist, not the ecchi crusader, other dudes out there, no one says anything to them when they do it, that tells me two things, one maybe no one cares or maybe it's just me, and two, maybe people see that my work can be more then that, and they wanted me to see it too. 

I know the Golems/Robots add a different element to the comic, but not much, there will be ship battles with cannons this just makes it more exciting, and it won't turn into Gundam if anyone was worried.
Trust me when I say I want to make the very best product I can, and I want everyone to enjoy it. I won't let the idea get ruined and I am not going to let the Golems take over the comic. 
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negativedarkangel Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2013

haha, well I've known form the start this series has absolutely amazing potential, that's why I've just kinda hung around despite the lack of main story progression and a reboot, some people may take that as a bad sign but I knew you were just tweaking the experience till it just seemed perfect, and everything seems all the better for it. just take the story where you feel it's gonna go, trust me, i'm picky about the things I get glued to so you're doing something right just for me to have stuck around beyond being introduced.

 

...ya know I forgot who brought me here, was it tl or linker? I forgot.

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Randommode Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt Negative 

It may have been TL :iconhappyhappyplz::icontlwelker: 
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negativedarkangel Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2013
it wa sone of those two, I just forgot which. I really wanna say is was tl, but i'm just not sure. it was a journal advertisement I remember that.
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:iconrandommode:
Randommode Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I hope it was TL 
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:iconnegativedarkangel:
negativedarkangel Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2013
well, it was linker who originally caused me to discover tl, so ya know...
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:iconrandommode:
Randommode Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Oh yeah he likes TL's art a lot 
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aaronmizuno Featured By Owner Sep 12, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Good post.
I appreciate this run-down. It's a great way for those of us who have been watching you for years and years to be reminded of what happened and to get some insight on why things changed.

.... Maybe I should do something like this... >.>
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:iconrandommode:
Randommode Featured By Owner Sep 12, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
It has to happen sometimes LOL There will be MANY more of these to come 
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PLASTIC-ROBOT-COMIC Featured By Owner Sep 10, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thanks for visiting my page! I love your story and your characters.
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:iconrandommode:
Randommode Featured By Owner Sep 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Thanks very much man! :wave: 
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BrutalBerserker Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2013  Student Digital Artist
This.  I like this. 

ANOTHER!
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:iconrandommode:
Randommode Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Oh what happened you mean? Well I plan to do A LONGGGGGGG explantation of having to reset the first time. The second one... eh, it wasn't TOO big a loss. The original was my baby and the one I am remaking 
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Bug-Off Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Storytelling is hard to do.
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Randommode Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I got it now :) XD I think 
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Timmy22222001 Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2013
Have to say to you lad a great job on the lead-up for this pic and all the information that got you to the steps where you are today with your adventure and Madeline still taking the charge, bravo!  Along the many ups and downs you've faced from the internet buggers or the rewrites to your story, its great to see you still chugging your way through.

I definitely give great cheers towards even the little timeline you included in the comment box upon explaining where our earlier drafts were and where of course some new fans can see where Pokey wasn't always there or understand the different methods you used to try and tell you story.

You continue to push yourself making a story even greater and characters that fit the world you've made and make everything feel so alive.  Already have checked out the other updates and damn impressive work to show the depth of the infamous Skellies and even that of the Skelly King, wow!

With each piece you work on I'm always excited to see what intense design and depth you'll take to show us the action, the fun and even the weirdness you show with your work.  With already a great level of fans and newcomers wanting to follow the story of Madeline I wish the best Random that you'l take this work of yours to the top, hell maybe even a TV show one day, lol.  Never hurts to dream lad, keep it up *thumbs up*

Later,
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Randommode Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
LOL I don't give up :) Thanks Tim you have been with me the whole time. 
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Timmy22222001 Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2013
Wow, really?  Was almost sure there was some time spent following your work, but damn that's just scary to ponder a small crab following you around wherever you go, lol.

Later,
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:iconrandommode:
Randommode Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I am a turtle so it makes sense to have a crab for a friend :) 
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Timmy22222001 Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2013
Undersea bros for life! *claw high five*

Later,
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Randommode Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
:iconepichigh5plz: We can go above and under the water! 
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Timmy22222001 Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2013
That sounds like an awesome name for a band, lol.

Later,
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Randommode Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
MAYBE :) 
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Dualmask Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Your dedication is admirable. I don't know if I have the cajones to reboot the entirety of my passion project, even though WEAPON Combat League might certainly need it.
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Randommode Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
:iconsuperonionplz: You are doing a good job, don't worry about it, with me, I had to get the ecchi out, it was eating the comic alive. Everyone likes the new one so I am very happy to not have to do it again, 3 years is too much :) 
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Dewani90 Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
well, nice to see you still have the drive to keep drawing pirate madeline... I'm still wondering why nobody points the flaws on my comics yet... i made the characters wrong to begin with and every new page seeks improvement in the designs, anyway, I'll follow your comic and see first hand how you fuse together every aspect that made your comic popular while sharpening the details, pirate madeline will be your sword to wield in the internet while you shove trolls and obsessive fanboys out of your way.
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Randommode Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I will not stop. This version will work!! :iconkaminaonionplz: lol Well it took a lot of revision to make it a sword and not a sword against myself 
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NWSaiyanX Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2013
:iconthemoreyouknowplz:
Nice background story about the resets of the story =P
Really nice =D
So, Pirate Madeline in 2013 will have pirates, robots, Pokey and probably ecchi? =P
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:iconrandommode:
Randommode Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
LOL Yes all of those. It is really the remake of the original 2009 one with the great intro of the 2011 one. Thanks NW 
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Devil-V Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2013
mmmm I still love the first madeline =D ecchi and funny no need to ask for more ;)
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:iconrandommode:
Randommode Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I am remaking it, I hope you will read the new ones. :iconkaminaonionplz: They will be as the old one 


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Jesse-the-art-maker Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2013
Whoa, cool! Fantastic even! :D
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Randommode Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Thanks Jesse 
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tlwelker Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2013  Hobbyist
It sucks to have to leave a lot of things on the scrap pile, but your skills have clearly grown dude!
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Randommode Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
This is the last time. :iconlaughingplz: It's by far the strongest, so it was okay 
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Groxee Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2013   Digital Artist
This really cleared some of the questions I had. I was wondering what the deal was with the comic on your website. I guess that was one of your revisions. And the one you're posting on here is the current one. 
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Randommode Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
lol Oh no the website, I need to fix it, I keep saying that but it will happen, I had to work very hard to get the new one going. :iconlaughingplz: Yes that was a revision, the 2010-2011 one 

Thanks Groxee. Yes this one is the new one, and it is coming out good, everyone seems really happy with it 
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sigel4ever Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2013  Student General Artist
interesting...
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Randommode Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
THank you Sigel :) 
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sigel4ever Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2013  Student General Artist
honored
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Shinobi-Gambu Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2013  Student General Artist
You truly came a long long way Random :)
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Randommode Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I am hanging in there! :iconhandsomeonionplz: 
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Coonstito Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Woah It's interesting to see how your work evolved, 
maybe I didn't read the old pages, but I loved the Pokey story =D
Your work ever is so professional man, and with those concepts about pirates, 
robots and quantum mechanics
(:iconwoooplz: science...)
It's so far of my favs comic in DA :thanks:


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Randommode Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
It is okay my friend, you will like it now! :iconkaminaonionplz: Thank you so much Olocoons you are a great friend 
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